and federal gambling laws. and the point is the rhetoric part i was referencing was that he was on his own, we had no idea -- ashley: distancing themselves. >> and i think the very, very good question you're raising is, wait a minute, where is this going to lead to? because he's cooperating. will they make another case? if so, against who? and then back to the original premise, will it have turned out to be a huge mistake in the first place? i think you're right. ashley: a number of different agencies are part of this, you know, investigation, new york city police department, internal revenue service, treasury department, it's a mouthful. inspector general, the federal reserve board, the nevada gaming, i mean, there's multiple agencies all getting in here. >> that tracks what i said earlier which is you've got all these ancillary things. so you'll have a money laundering task force, you'll have the irs in there, the fbi, and the point is it really is the stuff that spills out of gambling. and by the way, in thi